Heber J. Grant -- 1890-1894

[January 1, 1890] . . . a few days ago in the Gardo House Pres[iden]t Woodruff, Smith and I set apart brother John Nuttall to go to Washington to labor with John T. Caine and Bros. John Morgan and BH Roberts to go east and write and speak in the interests of our people and to do what they could to correct the ideas of the people that had been engendered by the late decision of Judge Anderson.

[January 8, 1890] The Liberal ticket for the City Council was published this morning. I am really surprised that there should not have been stronger men on the ticket in as much as there were so many good men to select from. I would be hard to get a much worse ticket if one were to try. That is so far as ability and honest are concerned. There are some of the parties on the ticket that are good men but they are not sufficiently numerous to have the balance of power.

[January 9, 1890] Pres[iden]t Geo[rge] Q. Cannon was pleased for a mission to Washington. This evening I spoke at the Political Club of the Twenty First Ward.

[January 15, 1890] This evening called at the Gardo found a number of the brethren present chatting over the subject of free schools. There was a feeling that the best thing that we could do under the circumstances was to get up as good a free school bill as possible and pass it. After the brethren of the Legislature had withdrawn I asked FS Richards and those of the Apostles present to give their opinion as the propriety of trying to secure a fusion ticket for the coming city elections. I stated that I was decidedly in favor of it if it were possible to affect a union. The matter of such a ticket and the free school bill went over until Pres[iden]t Woodruff could be with us.

[January 18, 1890] I met Capt[ain] Bonfield of Chicago at the Herald building today. I met with the City Central Committee. At 2 PM met at the Gardo with a number of the brethren and it was agreed that free schools be provided for during the present legislature. At five PM attended a meeting in the ZCMI office at which the subject discussed was as to what would be the best course to prevent the frauds being successful that had been perpetrated by illegal registering on the line of the Denver and Rio Grande Western RR Co. Webber, Rowe, Dinwooday, Young, Clark, Romney, Thatcher and myself were present and the feeling was that in case there was no action taken by the Denver and Rio Grande to prevent the voting of their men who had no right to vote that we should get the merchants to withdraw their freight from that company.

[January 19, 1890] On my way home met HB Clawson. He said that he had learned that there was an effort being made to trap some of the leading brethren. Said that Mulloy and Paul had had men on my tracks and that they claimed that they could put me in the "Pen" as soon as they got some one besides Parsons for Marshall.

[January 20, 1890] At ten AM attended a meeting at the Gardo. After a long and a full talk it was decided by those who were present that under the circumstances that the best thing that could be done in case it were possible to effect it would be to have a fusion ticket for the coming City election . . . At 4:30 attended a meeting at the ZCMI office of the same parties who met there Saturday to discuss the D&RG freight question and the best plans to prevent the voting of men on that road who had been illegally registered. We hoped to meet Mr. Dennett of that Road at the meeting but he is out of the city.

[January 21, 1890] At ten attended a meeting at the Gardo. There were present the members of the City Central Committee and they desired to learn the wishes of the brethren as to the proper persons to be chosen to run on the ticket of the Peoples Party. There was a long chat but it was voted as the sense of the meeting that the matter be left entirely in the hands of the Delegates to the Convention. It was considered best not to give any instructions. At Two PM our Rd committee met at the ZCMI office with Mr. JH Bennett of the Denver Railroad. We explained to him that there had been a car run down on his road as far as Pleasant Valley Junction and that there had been men on the different sections of his road registered who had never so much as seen Salt Lake. He said that he had no knowledge of the matter and that he would do all he could to prevent fraud on the line of his road. Said any of the men on the road who came in to vote who were not entitled to do so would be discharged. . . . This evening attended the 10th Ward Political Club. Cha[rle]s W. P. Penrose and Myself were the speakers.

[January 23, 1890] At ten attended a meeting in the Gardo. City Central Committee were present. They reported who the parties were that the Delegates desired for office and the brethren expressed a preference for some of those named for each place on the ticket. There was a splendid feeling present and there did not seem to be the least fears but what a good ticket would be chose by the Delegates. After the meeting President Woodruff expressed it as his opinion that Moses Thatcher, John Clark and I should go to the Denver and call on Manager Dodge of the Rio Grande Western to secure his aid in preventing fraudulent votes at the coming election. It was thought that we better start not later than Tuesday of next week.

[January 25, 1890] I met with the City Central Committee and told them that in as much as I had been elected to go to Denver that I desired to be let off from the labor of soliciting funds for the Central Committee. I said that I would give them another $200, and that this donation should aid them in getting others to double up on their subscriptions. I had a chat with Cha[rle]s W. Nibley this PM. He congratulated the Herald on the articles that it was publishing going after Gov. Thomas and others. He was a little surprised when I handed him my scrapboard and he saw that most of the articles that he liked so well were written by me. He said he hoped I would keep up my writing. I said that I wrote as much for my own good as for the good of the paper as it was a good school for a fellow with the limited knowledge that I had to have his articles corrected by an editor.

[January 29, 1890] [Denver] Called on Col. D. C. Dodge and he agreed after he had heard our statements and seen some of the sworn statements that we handed him that he would do all in his power to prevent the voting of men on the line of his road who were not entitled to do so. He agreed that we should have the privilege of inspecting the pay rolls of the company to aid us in hunting up fraud.

[February 3, 1890] I called at the Gardo and told the brethren there as to the success of the trip to Denver. Clark and I called this afternoon on Mr. Bancroft. After reading the letter from Mr. Dodge he said that he did not feel that he was authorized to allow us to examine the company's pay rolls. We telegraphed to Mr. Dodge that Bancroft construed his letter to allow us to examine the pay roll only for the list of names shown to him in Denver and asking him to instruct him to allow us to examine the November and December rolls. This evening attended a meeting of the members of the Legislature in the ZCMI Shoe Factory. A school Bill providing for free schools was read and talked about to some length. I confess that I regret our inability to have Church schools in our territory.

[February 4, 1890] Met Mr. Bancroft this afternoon. He had heard nothing from Dodge in answer to our telegram. Clark and I are making a business of going to the depot. We both feel there is a disposition on the part of the Rio Grande to put off giving the information we wish until it will be too late to benefit us.

[February 5, 1890] I hope the merchants in the People's party will let the Rio Grande alone in the future and this will no doubt teach them a lesson not to bother with political matters. It is bad enough to have those who do not have any favors from you working against you, but it is worse to have a Railroad Co. which receives thousands of dollars in patronage suing its influence against you and to aid in the frauds that will cause the election to go Liberal.

[February 8, 1890] [After telegraphing again on the 7th using ZCMI and other men's names] Clark and I were notified by Bancroft that he had received word from Dodge to give us all the information we wished. We took the book containing the names of those in the Second Precinct and checked those that we understood had registered along the line of their road and Bancroft promised to have them compared. I learned this from Clark I did not go to the depot myself . . .

The book of registered names was handed to Bancroft yesterday. Today Clark and I called and learned that all the checking which had been done was on the construction pay rolls and that there had been no checking done on the regular pay rolls of the company. We were told that it would take days to do anything of that kind. The permission to examine the rolls reminds me of a death be repentance. I hope that our merchants will teach the Rio Grande a lesson by having nothing to do with them in the future . . . I called at the Herald office and the question was being considered as to whether we should publish the names of Hymes and Mcallum or not as being the two person who had gone down the Rio Grande road and registered the men on the line. I did not favor the publication as to my mind there was not sufficient evidence to sustain us in so doing.

[February 10, 1890] The city election is in progress this day and as the town is full and running over with strange faces I feel almost sure that we are going to come out second best. I have spent the greater part of the day at the office of the Central Committee of the People's Party. There have been hundreds of men come in saying that they have been refused the privilege of voting. I never saw a livelier day in our City. Just before twelve it was learned that the Liberals carried the city by a majority of about eight hundred. It makes me sick at heart to think of Salt Lake being in the hands of the Liberals.

[February 11, 1890] I called at the Gardo this morning there was quite a long chat on the political situation. Among other things it was concluded to dispense with the services of JL Rawlins and employ RW Young.

[February 20, 1890] [Organizing the State Bank of Utah] I think it is a duty that we owe to the people to have institutions in this city and other places which are worthy of the full confidence of the people.

[March 6, 1890] Hyrum Grant went with me to see Pres[iden]t Smith and among other things we had a chat with him in reference to the widow of George Grant and wanted to know what he thought about one of us going to see her and offering to marry her. He did not seem to care to give any counsel in the matter but he said that he did not feel that any of the leading brethren in the Church should increase their families under the existing circumstances.

[March 12, 1890] This morning I went to the Gardo and had a chat with the brethren and they told me that they had prayed about the proper course for the saints to take under the present circumstances and that they had come to the conclusion that the best thing that those living on the outskirts of the city could do was to sell their property at the high prices which property was going at the present time. I am not sorry that such a decision has been arrived at, but I do not now think of what will be the best plan of action in the premises. I am afraid that in case there was a public statement to this effect that there would be a stampede to sell and that in case it is not made public that it will be a good chance for the saints who are sincere in thinking they should hold on to their property to get badly swindled by selling to those who are aware that there will be no blame attacked to those who sell property. I confess that I have no solution of the problem, as to the best plan of action. I was asked not to mention the matter to a soul.

[March 13, 1890] After we had had our Prayer Circle I asked the Presidency to give me their counsel and advice with reference to what action should be taken about Hyrum Grant or me marrying the widow of Geo[rge] Grant. I told them that I was better able to care for four wives from a financial standpoint than Hyrum was one. Told them that I had no desire to turn away from this matter in case there was a feeling that I should marry the widow. They were unanimously of the opinion that it would not be wise for me to take the step and suggested that I encourage Hyrum to do it.

[April 5, 1890] After the conference attended a meeting at the Gardo House. The matter considered was whether we as a people should become attached to the Democratic or the Republican party as the different persons might feel inclined of whether we had better remain as we are and stick to the People's Party. There was no decision arrived at.

[April 8, 1890] Pres[iden]t Lorenzo Snow referred to the fact that there had not been a meeting of the Apostles since the death of Pres[iden]t Taylor in a quorum capacity, only during the time that they were acting in the capacity of the Presidency. He wanted us to hold a meeting . . . (where) . . . wanted us to become united as one man and to learn to love each other . . . He was followed by Bro[ther]s Richards, Thatcher, and Lyman all of whom spoke in the same strain.

[April 9, 1890] We broke our fast by partaking of bread and wine. It was five o clock when we had finished eating and I am free to confess that I would prefer the water to the wine in taking the sacrament so far as my own teate is concerned . . . John W. Young 55 (minutes spoken in testimony meeting) All of the brethren who have spoken today have done so in the nicest kind of spirit. As humble and willing as could be. I never heard John W. Young speak before when I thought that he manifested such a good spirit and one which showed that he was willing to be taught.

[April 23, 1890] [Denver discussion with general agent D&RG] about the business of our people being taken away from his line. I told him I was under the impression that the reason was on account of the action of the Rio Grande Western in the late election in Salt Lake.

[May 15, 1890] I had a chat with WS McCornick this afternoon and he in favor of our sending a message to John T. Caine at Washington and suggesting the sending of a representative here to look into the feelings of the non-Mormons on the disenfranchisement bills now before Congress. A telegram was sent and an answer came that in case McCormick and others did not wish the bill to pass that they should send some one to Washington to work against it.

[May 19, 1890] [Emery County] A telegram from Salt Lake arrived this evening informing us that the Supreme Court of the United States had decided against the Church and that all of our property Real and Personal was gone. I confess that I was surprised as there is no low for taking the personal property and really looked for that to come back to us. The day when there will be trouble in the nation must be coming soon when robbery is sustained by the highest tribunal in the land.

[May 29, 1890] [Apostles meeting called by Lorenzo Snow to achieve perfect unity.] Moses Thatcher felt that it was a good thing to be here. He felt that the Lord was with us. I have been filled with solemn thoughts since Pres[iden]t Snow was moved upon to call us together. The hope of our becoming one has given me more joy than anything I can think of. If we can become as one it will be a glorious thing. The First Presidency are one and if we can become one and then become one with the First Presidency it will be the beginning of the establishment of the Kingdom of God, preparatory for the coming of our Lord and Master Jesus Christ . . . I do not believe that there are any of us who seek occasion against each other. I pray God to bless us while we are together.

[FM Lyman emphasis] He felt that after our experience (in Sanpete) there that there was great need for the brethren of the Apostles to get out among the saints in the different stakes and labor to get things in order. The impression on him that the members of the Apostles were needed in the different Stakes laboring among the people was very strong. [Advocated releasing brethren who were temple presidents.]

[May 30, 1890] [Meeting continued] Lorenzo Snow referred to the incident about brother Merrill's father and mother and his feelings that they were not worthy to be sealed. He said that he felt as we progressed that we would grow in charity. He referred to the father of Erastus Snow not embracing the gospel although he had heard it preached. William Snow his son asked the prophet Joseph if it would be right for him to be baptized for his father and Joseph said "Why certainly it is perfectly right, he was a good man and you should not neglect to attend to the matter for him." We have come to do a work for those who have not been pleased in this world as we have been. We are to do a labor the same as Jesus. The nearer we can get to understand how the Lord feels the better we will be able to do our duties . . . We are entitled to the blessings of heaven. We have special gifts. Brother Moses here is naturally a Prophet. We should not take credit to ourselves for the gifts that God has given us.

John W. Taylor . . . I have seen the Son of God in vision. I have seen the Prophet Joseph also brother Brigham Young and my own father since his death. I almost fear when I stop to think that I have seen the Lord Jesus Christ knowing as I do that others who have had similar manifestations have fallen away from the truth and am fearful least I fall . . . Look at the children of wealthy parents are there are few if any of them who any faith. (has said that) I feel that we cannot become one in spiritual things unless we are one in temporal things.

[July 15, 1890] I think more of the confidence of my friends than I do of all the other successes that have attended my labors [Winder has just offered to endorse a loan.]

[July 31, 1890] This morning at 9:30 attended a meeting in the Gardo House. The political status in Wyom[i]ng was discussed and it was the feeling of all of those present that it would be the greatest kind of ingratitude were our people in that section of the country to vote the Democratic Ticket after the representative from that State had labored so hard to have the State admitted without a Test oath similar to that in Idaho, which took away from our people the privilege of voting. Political matters in Arizona were talked over and there was a feeling that we would not stand much of a chance for our rights in that section unless our people there were to vote the Republican ticket. . . . At our meeting this AM at the Gardo it was decided that John H[enr]y Smith attend to the matters in Wyoming and see that our people did not go back on their friends in that State. If there were any who felt that they could not sustain the Republican Ticket they were not to be asked to do so. I put up for the night at RW Young's. I feel that it is altogether too much for me to make two speeches in one evening (which he has done at political meetings in the 4th and 18th wards).

[August 7, 1890] At 2 attended a meeting of the First Presidency and Apostles in the Gardo House. All of the Presidency, ten of the Apostles and Counselor Wells were present. Thirteen clothed and we had a prayer circle. It was one of the largest circles that I have ever attended of the Presidency and Apostles. After our prayer circle we adjourned to the lower room of the Gardo and held a long meeting. It lasted until about seven PM . . . The subjects that were talked about were Arizona Politics, the loaning of money to the Hedrickites on the Temple site. The Cannon House, The Street Car Stock sold Armstrong. Pres[iden]t Cannon's connection with the Bullion Beck and Champion Mining Co. It was decided that the Presidency of the Arizona Stakes should meet some of the brethren in California and that a decision should then be arrived at on Arizona politics. It was the opinion of those present that we should not vote solidly for either of the National Political Parties. Decided to loan $15,000 on the Temple Site. Pres[iden]t Cannon was given to understand that it would be would refuse to abide as well for him not to take any action with Beck as complications would be sure to arise as by the decision of the Church Tribunal and Beck would then the matters would have to come up in the courts and this could not be desirable. It was the feeling that if Pres[iden]t Cannon would return to the Church the amount that had been advanced to him on account of the purchase of the "Cannon House" property that he should have the property returned to him. The facts are that really the property had never passed out of his hands. [Grant brought up Armstrong street car transaction where he could not sell to McCune who offered $10,000, but sold to Armstrong for 5,000 with promise that he not sell to outsider; Armstrong then sold to McCune for $15,000. Grant told to drop matter, and will try.]

[September, 1890] [Grant in the East, returning home Sept. 24, no mention of Manifesto before Sept. 30.]

[September 30, 1890] At ten attended a meeting in the President's Office opposite the Gardo House of the Utah Sugar Co. I remained in the meeting until 1,50 and then went to lunch. At 2 P.M. attended a meeting of the Apostles in the Gardo House. There were present President Lorenzo Snow, Franklin D. Richards, Moses Thatcher, Francis M. Lyman, John Henry Smith, Heber J. Grant, John W. Taylor, and Abraham H. Cannon.

President Snow spoke of the manifesto that had recently been published by Prest. Woodruff and said that he approved of it fully. Said that even had he not been able to approve of it that he should not have opposed it as he did not feel that he would be justified in setting up his opinions in opposition to the Presidency. He felt that in case there was anything advanced that he was not able to see that he should remain still until such time as he could see it. He said there would be no loss to those who were true and faithful on account of their not being able to take more than one wife at the Present time. He said that some of the very best of men had passed away from this life when they were on missions who had not had any wife named Lorenzo Barnes as one of this kind. He said that he was that brother Barnes would have wives in the life to come. There was no blessing that would be denied him. He felt that the Manifesto would turn the hearts of many honest hearted people to a feeling of friendship and respect for us. While our enemies might do us more injury in the future, if possible, than in the past he was sure good would result from the publication of the Manifesto. I can see the good of the Manifesto clearly and am thankful for it. He had been glad that in the days of Joseph Smith that he had been blessed so that he could see an approve of his teachings, many of which were of such a nature that some of the saints turned away from the truth on account of them. When the knowledge which we have of the things of God is compared with that of the world we feel that our knowledge is immense, but when we compare what we know to the knowledge of God we feel that we know really nothing. Felt that we should be careful and faithful. In case we are successful in reaching an exaltation we would be able to save our wayward wives and children.

He referred to many cases in the past history of the Church were laws had been suspended for a time. He said we had not given up plural marriage and we should not and could not do so, but in the providences of God we were for the present relieved on account of the actions of our enemies from entering into that relation.

FRANKLIN D. RICHARDS, Said that those among the people who had the spirit of revelation would approve of the Manifesto. Said that it was a very momentous affair and that he was convinced that God was with Prest. Woodruff when he was preparing the Manifesto for publication. Many will regret [reject?] it and feel that the church is now all wrong. Some will say that John Sharp was condemned for the very thing that the President is now telling the saints to do. He referred to many cases where laws had been suspended. He named among the others the suspension of the law of baptism in cases where wives and children had received the testimony of the gospel but their husbands and fathers were opposed to their being baptised. He had happened into the Gardo house the day Prest. Woodruff was dictating the Manifesto and upon asking for him was told by Prest. Cannon that he was in the other room and was writing something very important and was not to be disturbed. When he came out he saw him and his face shown with pleasure and he seemed very much pleased and contented. I felt by the inspirations of the spirit to me that Prest. Woodruff had been inspired in what he had been writing. When the Manifesto was read I felt that it was the right thing and that it had been given at the right time. I feel that this is the work of the Lord. It is all right if the Government shall take all of our property real and personal.

Felt to endorse the sentiments of President Snow that in case we were faithful and secured an exaltation that we would be able to bring those of our families who had been wayward back into exaltation.

JOHN W. TAYLOR, Said that when he had read the Manifesto he felt "damn it." He said that he remembered the Revelation that Prest. Woodruff had had from the Lord which was read to us some time ago in which He told us that He would sustain us in carrying out the law of plural marriage. He also remembered finding among his father’s papers the word of the Lord to him in which the Lord said that plural marriage was one of his eternal laws and that he had established it that men had not done so and that He would sustain and uphold his saints in carrying it out. He said that this was given to his father in answer to prayer in which he had asked the Lord if it would not be right under the circumstances to discontinue plural marriages. I know that the Lord has given this manifesto to Prest. Woodruff and He can take it away when the time comes or he can give it again. I feel all right now and am glad that I do.

MOSES THATCHER, Said that day or so before the Manifesto was given that he was in the city and that Prest. Woodruff had said to him that he did not wish him to go away as there would be an important meeting and he had intended to telegraph for him to come to the city. Prest. Woodruff felt great anxiety regarding the false statements that were being published about us by the Utah Commission and government. He felt that great trouble was coming unless something was done to off set their publications. Felt that Congress would enact some law before they adjourned. Brother Thatcher said that he felt that the Manifesto had come by the inspiration of the Spirit to Prest. Woodruff and that it was all right with him. He was sure that it would do us great good as there would be thousands on thousands of upright and honest men in the land who would now feel that we were not an unlawful and treasonable set of people. Felt that God would hasten His work and that perhaps this very action may be the thing that will cause us as a quorum to be separated in the near future. He referred to the remarks of Prest. Snow when we had been together at our other meetings wherein he said that he wanted us to be sure and come to these meetings of the Apostles as the day may come when we will not have the privilege of meetings of this kind. The Manifesto would make our enemies madder than ever and they would do all in their power to bring trouble upon us, but actions taken against us now that we had taken the position that we had would be without excuse. It is necessary that this Nation shall be without excuse before the Lord will deal with them. I have known for years that our people would go to Mexico in great numbers. God will deal out to this Nation the measure they deal out to us. The battle ax of the Lord the Lamanites will have a hand in humbling this nation, He and read the statements of Prest. Snow that no one would lose any of the blessings of the Lord on account of their passing from this life before they had entered into plural marriage or any of the other laws in case such persons were really faithful and in their hearts intended to keep all of the laws of the Lord. He referred to the case of Feramorz Young. Said that he had had a testimony from the Lord that plural marriage was true. That he was engaged to Miss Hattie Hopper and that she, he feared, did not have faith in that doctrine and that he had recorded in his journal that he should lay his love on the alter of sacrifice sooner than not fulfill this law, and yet he had died with no wife. Since his death a very nice young lady had died and she had appeared to her friends and asked that she be sealed to Fera. Young and the matter had been attended to. Another Young lady of gentile parents and who had never been in the church but who had lived in the world came to a gentile woman in Salt Lake City and plead with her to go to Fera. Young's mother and have the ordinances attended to for her and have her sealed to Fera. This young lady had died in the world with no knowledge of the gospel so far as we had any way of learning. She had come three times to the gentile woman in this city and this woman finally went to Fera[morz]’s mother and told her of the visitation and said that she did not believe a word in what the young woman had said to her, but she had finally been under the necessity of promising her that she would go to Fera[morz]'s mother and so she had done so. The ordinances were performed for her and she had been sealed to Fera. and while he died with no wife he now had two and brother Moses felt that there was not the least danger that any one who was faithful would be deprived of any single blessing that they had earned, no matter if they were called away from this life before they had fulfilled all of the laws of the Lord.

FRANCIS M. LYMAN said that he had endorsed the Manifesto fully when he first heard it. He said that it had always been a matter of great satisfaction to him that he had never had the least difficulty up to the present time to fully endorse all of the doctrines that had been advanced by the President of the Church from the days of the Prophet Joseph down to the present time and he hoped that he should never have any doubt regarding matters which might be advanced in the future. All that Joseph, Brigham Young, John Taylor or Wilford Woodruff had advanced had come to him as the word of the Lord and he had found not the slightest difficulty in accepting the same. He did not feel that we had surrendered the least principle by the action that had been taken by Prest. Woodruff in publishing the Manifesto. We had refused to allow marriages in the United States and he could not see the least reason why we should not have the benefit in case there was any of publishing this fact to the world. He referred to his labors since our last meeting with brothers Richards, Smith, Cannon, Taylor, and Grant of our quorum and brothers Reynolds, Gates and Roberts of the Seventies and paid each of them a tribute, testifying to the inspirations of the Lord attending them in their labors among the people. After the remarks of brother Lyman our meeting adjourned to meet at ten tomorrow. We were to come together fasting tomorrow.

I have enjoyed the meeting today very much indeed. The brethren have been blessed in their remarks.

[October 1, 1890] This morning I wrote a letter to Augusta. I also wrote up my journal for Monday and most of that for yesterday. I did not have time to write all the items before it was time for me to attend the meeting of the Apostles viz. 10 A.M.

JOHN HENRY SMITH, said that the Manifesto had disturbed his feelings very much, but he had felt that he had better say nothing about it until he was with his brethren. He had many times felt that in case we as a people had taken the heroic stand and maintained all of the principles of our faith that our troubles would have been over by this time. He had often wondered if we as a people were worthy of the principle of plural marriage and when he had looked at the actions of men living in the practice of this principle he did not much wonder that the Lord had for the present restrained us in its practice. The Governor of our territory had already suggested that we must now away all of our wives other than the first one. He said that the only thing that would restrain him from living with all of his wives would be that he was in the Pen, and could not do so, that is such wold be his course unless there was a change in his present make up. He confessed that he was somewhat at sea regarding the Manifesto as he had had no impressions on the subject. He desired to aid in the preaching of the gospel and in building up the kingdom. He had been absolutely happy in this room some months ago when Prest. Woodruff read to us a revelation on from the Lord telling us that plural marriage was a principle that He had revealed and that he would sustain us in obeying His laws. He regretted that he did not have the same happy and contented feeling regarding the Manifesto. My fears are that the Manifesto will do us as a people more harm than good. He was willing to sustain the prest. In issuing the Manifesto although he was a little at sea as to the wisdom of its having been issued.

HEBER J. GRANT, said that he felt easy and happy over the Manifesto and felt that it was the right thing at the right time and that there was not the least reason why such a document should not be issued as we had already come to the decision that we as the leaders of the people should not allow any more persons to married in the United States, and that in case a person wished a second or third wife that he must go out of the United States to get her and that after had been married that he should not bring her to this country. Prest. Woodruff had simply told the world what we had been doing and if there were any advantages to secure by the publication of the Manifesto I feel that we should have them. Had no idea that the publication of the Manifesto would in the least relieve us from persecution in the future, but felt as some of the brethren had expressed themselves yesterday that it might be the very thing that would bring greater trouble on us and night be the cause of separating our quorum so that we would not have the privilege of meeting as we are now doing. Some say that in case this action had been taken years ago that the Nation would have allowed these then in plural marriage to continue to live with their wives and raise families, but in case that had been done the question was how could the words of the Prophet Joseph been fulfilled where in he had said that our rights and liberties should be taken from us and that the Constitution of our country would be trampled on. Things come around in their proper time and season. Brother John W. Taylor was asked to speak, but said that as he had expressed his opinion yesterday that he had nothing more that he cared to say.

ANTHON B. LUND, said that he felt all right about the Manifesto. He had come to Pres[iden]t Cannon soon after it had been issued and had heard from him the way in which the matter had impressed the mind of our President. He gave an account of a celebration that had been held at Ephriam on the 15th, ult. . . . it had been held in honor of the 40th anniversary of the organization of the First Branch of the Church in Scandinavia. They had had a very remarkable time. There were present the First Woman baptized. The First Elder ordained and the first of several other things. He had enjoyed the celebration very much indeed, but did not wish his brethren of the Apostles to feel that those of the saints who had cone to this land from Scandinavia were any dearer to him than any of the other saints. He loved the people of the Lord without regard to what land they had come from. There had been representatives from nearly every Stake in the Church where there were any of the Scandinavians living.

ABRAHAM H. CANNON, said that the Manifesto had not in the least disturbed him, as he had recognized the publication simply the announcement to the world of what we were already doing. He could not help admiring Daniel who would supplicate the Lord even in the face of the law which said that he would have to suffer in case he did so, but at the same time he had felt that it required as much of the heroic in the nature of man to make a statement similar to the Manifesto as to suffer. We felt that many who had not gone to the Pen. had suffered as much and in sone cases more than those who had. Many men would really prefer to go to the Pen. than to be running around on the Underground but on account of the suffering that would come to their wives in case they were to come into court they had kept away. He felt that the Lord had suggested to Prest. Woodruff to publish the Manifesto and that was sufficient for him. He felt that those who would not be on hand to sustain the Manifesto were those who had not been on hand to do their duties in the Church in the past. The faithful saints would sustain the Manifesto. Felt that the Lord would not ask us to do that that would not be for our best good. When I hear the remarks of the brethren regarding the troubles that may come on us as a quorum and on the saints my only fear is that I may not have sufficient strength to stand. I feel to give my approval to the Manifesto issued.

MOSES THATCHER, asked the question if it would be wisdom on our part to fly in the face of the law and answered no. He related a conversation between Prest. Budge and Brother John Nicholson in which brother N. had said that he felt that he should come out as a people and stand up for the principles of our faith and take the consequences. Prest. Budge took the position that he thought that it was the better recourse for him under the circumstances to visit his folks without any one knowing that he did so. He said that the reason he did not go openly was that he was afraid to do so. He asked brother Nicholson why he did not visit his folks openly and was answered that he did not dare to for fear of a second term in the Pen. Brother Budge told him that if his position was the right one that he should stand up for Plural marriage and take the second term, that if it was the right thing to do for the people it was the right thing for him as an individual. This practical application had the affect of modifying the opinions of brother N. to quite an extent, Moses felt that in the past that State lines had given us some relief, but that they would fade away and that it would be necessary for us to go to Mexico and Central America in great numbers and that there we would form alliances with the battle axes of the Lord and that they would aid us in eventually sustaining and upholding the Constitution of this country. We must be the ones according to the predictions of the Prophet Joseph to rescue the Constitution when it should hang as it were by a thread. Those men who have kept all of the commandments of the Lord will be the ones who will go to Mexico and as they have been faithful they well be the proper persons to accomplish the mighty work that I believe is to be done in that section of the country. The principle of plural marriage is as sacred to me today as it ever was, and I do not feel that we have abrogated any principle of our faith on account of the publication of the Manifesto.

LORENZO SNOW said that he had been much pleased with the remarks of the brethren. He thought that each and every case should stand on its own merits. It would be wise in sone cases for men to take their wives out of the country where they could have more children and in other cases it would be the part of wisdom for them not to do so but to remain here and give care to the education of those that they now had.

[October 2, 1890] At noon attended a meeting of the Presidency and apostles in the Gardo House. Prest. Woodruff wished to have the expressions of the brethren regarding the Manifesto and a vote as taken fully endorsing it. There was a feeling that it would be a good thing to have the Manifesto voted on at Conference by the people among some of the brethren and with others that it should not be that it should not be referred to only so far as to tell the saints that it had the approval of the Counselors of President Woodruff and the Apostles. I wanted the announcement made but did not want it put to the saints for a vote. There was no decision made but we were requested to make the matter a subject of prayer and then we could decide on some action in the premises. Our meeting was an interesting one and Prest. Woodruff explained the reasons that caused him to publish the Manifesto. The question came up that now our enemies would demand that our people come into court and promise to obey the law and to discard their wives. Prest. Woodruff said that he would see them in the very best possible kind of a hell first. He said that there was no telling what we might have to do in the future, but at the present time he felt that we must be true to our wives. There was a motion carried that we use our influence privately to get our people not to promise to desert their wives when they are taken into court. I had no idea for an instant that there was the least desire on the part of Prest. Woodruff that any one should desert their wives. All that he desired was that their shall be no more plural marriages in the United States. I confess that it would be a great trial to me were there a Manifesto published that those who had more than one wife were to discontinue to acknowledge them as such. I feel that I could not endorse any such a thing. I hope and pray that I may never be called on to do anything of the kind. I also hope and pray that in case such a thing ever becomes necessary that I shall feel allright about it and especially I do hope that my plural wives will feel all right. I am almost sure that in case things got so warm in the United States that such a position was necessary that I should feel that I did not care to live here and should go to Mexico or some other country. I have spent the afternoon attending to business. The evening I have spent at home.

[October 5, 1890] The matters considered at the Gardo was as to whether there should be a vote taken tomorrow on the Manifesto by the conference or not. The matter was left entirely in the hands of Prest. Woodruff to act. It was the feelings of those present that Brother John T. Caine was the best man to be nominated for Congress . . . [largest audience at priesthood meeting he has ever seen] I am amused, when I see the increase of faith among the saints, at the remarks of our enemies that the Mormon Church is on the decline.

[October 6, 1890] [After Articles of Faith read] Bishop Orson F. Whitney then read the Manifesto of Prest. Woodruff. Prest. Lorenzo Snow then read a motion that we approve of the action of Prest. Woodruff in issuing the Manifesto. Some did not hear the motion and it was read a second time by brother Whitney and the presented by Pres[iden]t Cannon and unanimously sustained by the people . . . Pres[iden]t Woodruff among other things said that no man at the head of the Church would ever be permitted to lead the people astray. He said that were he to attempt any such thing the Lord would remove him out of his place . . . The meeting this morning is one of the most important that has ever happened in the Church and there were many wet eyes in the congregation when the vote was called to sustain the action of Pres[iden]t Woodruff in his issuing the Manifesto. There were some of the people that did not vote. There were not many as I noticed that the votes was as large if not large than that which had been given to the authorities when they were sustained.

[October 7, 1890] [At Gardo First Presidency, apostles, Presidency of Seventies, Presiding Bishoprick, presidents of stakes and their counselors] The main thing chatted on was the political situation and the great need that there should be some funds raised so that all of the calls for aid in political matters would not fall on the Church and a few that were willing to do all they could. Remarks were made by Pres[iden]ts Cannon and Woodruff, Brothers John R. Winder, Franklin S. Richards, John W. Taylor, Moses Thatcher, Myself and others. John Taylor was of the opinion that all the funds needed would be raised if there was only a system and the collections were made once a month.

[November, 1890] [In East with Lucy and Gusta] I am delighted to see that they are growing to be quite good friends.

[December 11, 1890] At 2 PM attended a meeting of the Apostles. There were not enough present to hold a circle. The proposition for 100 men to put up the money needed to build the Sugar Factory was chatted about. Bro[ther] Lyman said that he had no faith in the enterprise and I said that I had simply on the ground that I felt that the Presidency would not have been so anxious if the Lord was not in the move. Bro[ther] Woodruff said that I was on the right tract and that he hoped that I would get some faith into brother Lyman . . . [Grant going East for money for project.]

[December 17, 1890] [Omaha] I put up at the Millard House CW Bennett and I were given rooms together. I had to smile when the clerk saw that we were both from Salt Lake and asked if we would not prefer adjoining rooms. I do not suppose there is a more red hot Anti Mormon on earth than Bennett and it was a little amusing for us to room together.

[December 19, 1890] As I was starting away from the meeting of the Directors of ZCMI Pres[iden]t Woodruff called me aside and said "God bless you Bro[ther] Grant You shall be successful" and I shall hold onto his promise [has received discouragement in Chicago, heading for New York].

[December 26, 1890] [New York] I had a long chat with Brother John W. Young today. He said that he felt hurt at my remark last night that I would not care to loan him money from the funds of the State Bank. I told him that I could not take back what I had said, that while I considered him an honest man at the same time that I felt that he was constantly undertaking more than his means would justify and therefore I had not that confidence in the success of his undertakings that I wished I had, or which would inspire me enough so that I would loan him means from a bank where I was really holding the funds in trust for others.

[January 1, 1891] [Written Manassa, Colorado, March 1, 1891 says, Hartford, Connecticut, that day] The most important event financially of the year has been the organization of the State Bank of Utah. [Is complimented to be president of it.] Above all things I have been thankful for the wonderful meetings that have been held by the Apostles wherein they have become more united in heart and spirit than they have ever been before since I became a member of the Quorum.

[January 2, 1891] Hon. John T. Caine arrived from Washington (NY) this AM he had had a telegram from the Presidency asking that we call on the illustrated American and try and see what, could be done to get them to stop publishing the lies they were publishing about our people . . . Had a chat with As[sistan]t Editor Mr. Potter but we failed to get any satisfaction from Him. I became fully convinced that he did not care a cent how many lies he published about our people as long as the articles had the effect of increasing the circulation of his paper. He all but admitted that he had written the articles . . .

[January 3, 1891] NYC took train for Hartford . . . I feel very thankful indeed that I have been so successful on this trip (sent telegram that I had secured another $50,000) plus 10,000 for self, 5,000 Dinwoody

[January 10, 1891] [When pessimists in Chicago found he had succeeded in raising $300,000] they seemed to have considerable respect for me.

[January 13th, 1891] [Written at Manassa, March 4, 1891] I should have written a lot for my Journal, but my machine is a little out of order. I over a month behind with my Journal and regret that the machine is not all right so I could partially catch up. I shall save the letters written today and make a copy in my letter book before they are mailed.

[January 14, 1891] I called at the Gardo House where I met Pres[iden]ts Woodruff and Smith. They congratulated me very heartily on the success that had attended my trip . . . (Says Thatcher jealous of success on trip.)

[January 15, 1891] At ten attended a meeting of the Utah Sugar Co. the meeting adjourned until three. The financial condition of the Sugar Co. of the Sugar Co. is anything but pleasing. It is going to be a wonderfully hard thing to raise the necessary money to carry this enterprise out to a successful issue but with the blessings of the Lord I feel that there will be a success made of the business.

[January 16, 1891] There was a meeting at nine at the Gardo of Bro[ther]s Geo[rge] Q. Cannon, Moses Thatcher LG Hardy and myself. We were a committee that was appointed yesterday at the meeting of the Directors of the Sugar Co, to see what could be done to raise money for the company. The feelings as expressed at the meeting this morning were that there was only one way that there would be success attend our efforts that was for the Presidency of the Church to call on the different brethren to do a certain amount as it is was thought the different brethren could do. The feeling was that there were 100 men in our territory who had been abundantly blessed of the Lord and that it would be no hardship for them to carry the load of the Sugar Co. There was a list of names partially prepared of those who were perfectly able to take at least $5,000 each in the Sugar Co. . . .

[January 23, 1891] [GQC blessed wife, Grant never felt power so strong.] At 11 there was a meeting of the Presidency and Apostles for the purpose of deciding on what was the best thing to do with the Sugar business (several other such meetings with no conclusion in next month).

[January 28, 1891] [After Snow pledged support of sugar, though not excited about it] Moses Thatcher believed that brother Snow had been inspired of the Lord to bring this matter up. Said he had felt that there was a bar between him and the President, Did not know that he would be able to control his feelings When the brethren are in trouble had always felt to come to their aid. He had entered the Bullion Beck and Champion Mine because ho felt that Pres[iden]t Taylor wished him to aid him and not because he desired to take an interest in that property. He referred to his connection with the BB&C Mining Co Referred to his lack of confidence in Badlam, Trumbo and others and felt that developments would prove the correctness of his position. . . . He was willing to be judged by Pres[iden]t Woodruff or his Brethren. All that he had done had been what he considered right but he might have been wrong. He would sooner be in the current with his brethren and lose all that he had than not to be one with his brethren and retain his possessions. He felt that what brother Snow had said was right and that union was the most important thing with us as a Presidency and Apostles. GQC There have been occurrences since the death of Pres[iden]t Young that I have not had the love of my brethren and it has been very painful. After the death of Pres[iden]t Taylor I desired a mission but I was called to the Presidency . . . I have no feeling against my brethren. Have been hurt by some of the things I have had to endure. I was hurt that I should be refused representation on the Board of Directors in the Bullion Beck and Champion Co. as I was one of the main shareholders. [Several times he had to stop to control his feelings.] President Joseph F. Smith paid a very high compliment to Isaac Trumbo and told of his many labors in our behalf. He said that he considered Trumbo's morals as good as the majority of the leading men of California, but that was not saying much. The only interest he had in Bullion Beck and Champion matters was to see the agreement made by Pres[iden]ts Taylor and Cannon carried out in good faith . . . He had felt hurt that there seemed to be such a lack of confidence on the part of some of the brethren for the labors of the Presidency. (many of the brethren express feeling of former ill will over business connections) Pres. Jos[eph] F. Smith moved that Brother Grant go east or West after the necessary arrangements had been made as to securities and try to borrow $100,000 or $150,000 to be applied temporarily for the relief of the Utah Sugar Co. . . . Seconded by Pres[iden]t Geo[rge] Q. Cannon. [Next day tried but failed to get from Deelye and McCornick 50,000 for the Sugar Co. . . . ] that being the amount needed on the 1st of the month to make the next payment of the Sugar Co's machinery. This was January 30 above also

A letter was read that had been written by M. M. Estey to Pres[iden]t Cannon.

[February 6, 1891] Brother Heber M. Wells was frightened that a loan was made to the Sugar Co yesterday. I told him that it had been voted by the Presidency and Apostles that we would stand under the load and that the entire credit of the Church should be used to see the enterprise through. [Some of brethren, Thatcher, Lyman, Snow, JW Taylor not excited about it as investment but willing to back it.]

[February 10-14, 1891] Wells Fargo and Co have promised to take the $100,000 for the Church as follows $25,000 for six, $25,000 for 12, $25,000 for 18, and $25,000 for 24 months at eight percent per annum . . .

[February 16, 1891] I went to the Gardo and reported my trip west. The brethren were well pleased with the success that had attended my efforts and were in favor of accepting the Wells Fargo and Co. money.

[February 18, 1891] At 11:30 attended a meeting at the Gardo of some of the leading brethren and there was a long chat on the Political situation at Ogden and it was the opinion of those present that it would be a good thing for the people at Ogden to accept of the proposition that had come to them from the leading men in the Liberal party and that they divide on National Political lines. The Presidency, Presiding Bishoprick, AH Cannon and myself of the Apostles were present in addition to those from Ogden.

[March 12, 1891] Pres[iden]t Cannon said that Mr Estey of California, who is a great friend of ours had some prospects of becoming the United States Senator from that state and he suggested we pray for him. Pres[iden]t Woodruff then requested brother Cannon to offer a prayer in Mr. Estey's behalf.

[March 19, 1891] Met at the Gardo with the Presidency Apostles and the Presidency of the seventies and there was a long chat about the political situation in Ogden and the reasons which caused the change from the People’s Party were explained. There was a meeting the morning I left for Colorado about five weeks ago at which the matter was fully considered.

[Copy of letter March 18th, 1891, to Bishop John R. Winder:] City Dear Brother We are impressed to address you this letter and to solicit your cooperation in the sugar making enterprise which has been inaugurated lately among us . . . It seems absolutely necessary, therefore, that we should look to the interests of our own people, and by wise effort endeavor to establish industries which will give them employment. [Preceded by . . . As you are aware, events have been so shaped by those who have obtained power in our city and county and elsewhere, as to deprive every one of our faith of all public employment, and to give the places which they occupied to those who are strangers to our country.] We believe that this sugar-makeing business has been examined with sufficient care to furnish more than reasonable ground for hope . . . Those of us who have grown up with this country, and have been so favored of the Lord since we came here in the accumulation of means, owe it to the community that we should do our share in helping to develop home industries . . . With Kindest Regards We remain your brethren Wilford Woodruff, Geo[rge] Q. Cannon, Jos[eph] F. Smith.

[April 2, 1891] The Presidency and Apostles met together and the question of whether John H[enr]y Smith should accept the Presidency of the Standard Newspaper came up for consideration. Bro[ther] Snow was opposed to his accepting the position but would approve of it if it was the wish of the Presidency. Nearly all of those present spoke but non of them favored bro[ther] Smith’s accepting the position. We chatted to some length on the Manifesto. Pres[iden]t Cannon said among other things that he had no doubt that the advice given to the brethren in Ogden to divide on National Party Lines in politics was inspired of the Lord. Pres[iden]t Woodruff said that he felt that it was best for John H[enr]y not to accept the Presidency of the Standard Co. Referring to the Manifesto he said that he wished to say that the Lord was with us and he testified in the name of Israel’s God that the heavens were not closed over our heads and the Lord had not left us to ourselves. If it had not been for the Manifesto all the work for the living and the dead in our temples would have had to stop. Would not have taken the stand he did had he not been moved on by the inspiration of God. The Lord God will hold this Nation responsible for the persecutions of the saints have had to pass through. He will yet open doors that the principle of plural marriage can and will be restored. I have no fears with regard to this Church and this people. The Lord will not leave us without a guide nor will He turn away from the prayers of this people. The Lord is with us and our brethren who have passed to the other side are working in the heavens for us. The . . . Rejoiced in the union of the brethren. Did not wise to see us divided in temporal or spiritual things . . . The great necessity of bringing money into the country for a long period was considered at some length. Moses proposed that a large Trust Co. With $10,000,000 capital be formed and that we try and get all the leading brethren to turn in their stocks in our various corporations to the sum of say $5,000,000 and that then some one be sent to London to bond the assets of the Company. The matter of trying to form such a company was referred to Moses Thatcher, Heber J. Grant and Mariner W. Merrill.

[May 1, 1891] [After many discussions about it] I have had a chat today with Frank H. Dyer, Judge Judd and J. L. Rawlins on the proposition of selling them and their friends an interest in the Herald. Unless they can secure the control they did not care to purchase.

[May 4, 1891] [Joseph F. Smith has been against gentiles controlling] (GQ) Cannon said that he was willing that we should sell one half of the Herald to the gentile Democrats and allow them a majority of the Directors. I think the chances are that it will finally be approved to sell a majority of the stock.

[May 9, 1891] [Harrison speech] I think it was a great and grand opportunity for him to have promised the people everything in case they would stand by their present position. I think Had he been a great statesman he would have made hundreds of Republicans, but I do not think he made any.

[May 20, 1891] I have spent the day attending to business. This evening I attended the Republican meeting in the Theatre and I do not think I have ever been at an entertainment that was the equal of the meeting this evening. It was a first class entertainment. The yelling was something immense. Between the Liberals who wanted organization and those who did not we had a great entertainment. John H[enr]y Smith spoke at the meeting last night. I felt that it was one of the mistakes of his life to speak at the meeting and I felt sure that the roughs present would cry him down and that he would be humiliated, but much to my satisfaction he was given better attention than any other speaker and he made a good talk. I prayed for him with all my heart while he was talking.

[May 31, 1891] At the meeting this AM brother AM Cannon announced that he was a Republican and made quite a political speech. I was surprised and annoyed at his remarks and felt ashamed to have them made during our service.

[June 3, 1891] Called at the Gardo this AM Had a long chat on the political situation. John H[enr]y Smith, FS Richards, CW Penrose, and others there. After our chat Brothers Cutler and Jennings Manager and Secy of the sugar Co came in and we had a long chat on the condition of that business, Brother Cutler reported his trip to San Francisco and he was well pleased with the outlook for our business. The main thing was that we need about $150,000 before we would have any sugar for sale.

[June 23, 1891 ] [Salt Lake City] The Times publishes an interview this evening with Prests. Woodruff and Cannon. I have never read anything that has caused me to feel worse than the statements in this interview. I could not refrain the tears when thinking of it this evening before I retired. I cannot understand why the Lord would wish us to be so humiliated. I can not for the life of me see why the Presidency need to say that it is their understanding that the people are in good faith, keeping the laws on unlawful cohabitation. It seems to me that such a statement humiliates the sisters who are in plural marriage more than they should be called on to endure. I feel that I would do anything in reason on Gusta and Emily's account sooner than to have had such a statement published. I confess that I do not think it was a good thing for the Presidency to refer to the matter, but then they stand at the head and I hope their position will never be such that it will try my faith, but I am free to confess that I do not and cannot see why the Lord should give a command to his servants to take more wives and then the Presidency should say that it is their understanding that these men are not in good faith living with those wives. It is killing to think of the effect of their words on sensitive women who are in plural marriage. The only way to make these women feel well is for their husbands not to live the law in good faith and such a course is not a very pleasant one after the statements of the Presidency.

[June 29, 1891] At 11 AM and 2 PM attended a meeting of the Apostles with the Presidency at the Gardo. The present political situation was the subject of discussion and it was the opinion of all present that the best thing to do was to have a fusion ticket if it were possible to secure one.

[June 30, 1891] Called at the Gardo this AM and I was requested in connection with Bro[ther] John H[enr]y Smith to get a lot of leading brethren in the Republican and Democratic Parties together and see how they felt regarding a fusion ticket . . . At five attended a meeting of about fifteen of the leading brethren who have joined the Republican and Democratic Parties, at the office of Franklin S. Richards. There was a general discussion as to the propriety of a fusion ticket at the coming election and as near as I could judge those present were most all in favor of having straight party tickets feeling that in the long run this would be the best thing for the people. If we were to have a fusion ticket it would give our enemies a chance to say that we were not really Democratic or Republican in our politics. I was decidedly in favor of a fusion ticket before I attended the meeting this afternoon but I feel now that unless it is brought about through the solicitations of the leading gentiles in both parties I feel that our people should do nothing to bring a fusion ticket into the field.

[July 6, 1891] I have unbound faith in the success of the business and I should be delighted to see the benefits go to the Church. I feel sure that the profits will be at least twenty five percent and as the Church can get the money for not more than eight percent there will be a good margin of profit for them . . . I shall be pleased and thankful when the Church has more funds than it has at the present.

[July 7, 1891] Lorenzo Snow . . . He felt sure that while we as members of this quorum do not see eye to eye in political matters that we do see eye to eye in feeling that we should all labor to prevent antagonism from growing up among us on account of political differences. There were some who were finding a great amount of fault with brother John H[enr]y Smith on account of the part he is at the present time taken in political matters. He had not felt well pleased at first of the action of brother Smith in going to the field to talk politics, but after reflecting on the subject he had arrived at the conclusion that it was done with the approval of the Presidency and so he felt all right about it. No matter what the results may be now the Lord would bring things around for the good of the people. Moses Thatcher, said that at the time that the political move was made at Ogden and the people divided on National party lines he felt that the move was the right thing at the right time and that he had seen or learned nothing since that date to change his opinion. Made some extended remarks on the present political situation and felt that it was a very dangerous thing to make the least effort to change the people. In case they were largely Democratic it would be very dangerous indeed in his opinion to try and have things equally divided or nearly so. . . . Francis M Lyman said he thought it was a very proper thing for us as a people to divide on National Party lines in politics. He felt that the people should decide for themselves as to which party they preferred to join and thought it would be a mistake for as the leading officials of the Church to try and influence them in their choice of parties. He felt sure that the great majority of our people in Utah and Idaho were Democratic in their tendencies and he did not think it was possible for the Presidency and Apostles to make Utah a Republican state if they were to try and to his mind it was a mistake to try and divide them as nearly equal as possible. He felt that it would be much better for us as a people if we were nearly equal in our leanings in political matters, but as we were not he felt that the best thing was to allow things to take their natural course . . . Felt that the division on party lines was the proper thing. Did not favor a fusion of the Democrats and Republicans in our city. Had no fears of the final outcome and faith in the love for his brethren.

Heber J. Grant said that he felt strongly that it would be a great mistake for the leading brethren in the Church to try and change our territory from being largely Democratic. He had become more and more convinced all the time that the greatest possible safety was in following the advice and counsel of the Presidency. He had seen their advice turn out to be the right thing so often (when thought it wouldn't) Did not wish to make any political speeches but he was placed in an awkward position when he refused to do so as he had been on hand to work for the People’s Party and his Democratic friends could not understand what was the reason he did not come out and work for them. Bro[ther]s Thatcher and Grant at this junction had a little argument on the tariff question and Prest. Snow called us to order and said that felt it was not profitable for the brethren to argue in our meetings. We both expressed our approval of the position taken by brother Snow and agreed with him that arguments were calculated to break the flow of the spirit of our meetings. John W. Taylor said that wherever he had gone that he had advised the saints not to be in a hurry to join either of the parties he felt that they should wait and hear what both parties had to say and then select the one that they felt pleased them the best. Said that wherever he had gone that the saints had expressed sorrow and regrets that brother Smith should take the stump in the interests of the Republican cause. He felt that the division of the people was all right and that the Lord was pleased with it but in his opinion the less we as leaders of the people had to do with political matters the better it would be for us and the more liberty we would be permitted with our families. Said that when he called at the houses of the saints they asked him if he would take tea or coffee and he said neither, but told them he wanted milk. He was in the same position with politics he did not want to be a Republican or a Democrat, but he wanted to be for the building up of the Kingdom of God . . . Marrinner W. Merrill said that he had not given politics much thought and he had not as yet declared himself as being on the Democratic or the Republican side. (against trying to alter party preference or balance) He hoped that it would not be necessary for brothers Moses, Grant and others to enter the political field as he was fearful that such a course would cause a feeling of coldness to grow up between them . . .

Anthon H. Lund said that he had not taken an active part in politics. He felt sure that while brother John H[enr]y had not been counseled by the Presidency to do as he had that he had had their approval in his course. He felt that it would be an error if an effort is made to try and divide the people equally. The division was not a sham and he knew that the people were sincere in declaring their preferences for the different parties . . . Abra[ha]m H. Cannon said that he had not as yet been able to make up his mind as to which party he should join. He had some fears that our dividing on party lines would have the effect of creating antagonism between friends . . . He felt that the appointing of a committee as suggested at our meeting last Monday would be a great mistake. This committee would have the duty of trying to divide the people as near as possible in equal numbers between the parties and he felt that the leading church officials should not use any influence in political matters.

[Meeting adjourned] I confess that the idea that the division of the saints on political grounds as suggested by Brother Lund had never presented itself to my mind but I agree with him perfectly and I am thankful that in the future no one can claim that this ticket or the other in the Church or the Priesthood ticket. I am truly thankful that the church is to be left out of the fight.

[July 8, 1891] Meeting of ten of the Apostles. Bro[ther]s Thatcher and Smith were not with us. Bro[ther] Thatcher left this AM for Chicago and Bro[ther] Smith was excused on account of an appointment from our meeting in the afternoon yesterday and also from being present today. Pres[ident] Snow stated that the Presidency had appointments which would prevent them from meeting with us today, but they would be pleased to meet tomorrow and would like to join with us in partaking of the sacrament.

[July 9, 1891] Meeting at ten AM There were Present Presidents Geo[rge] Q. Cannon and Jos[eph] F. Smith, Apostles Snow, Richards, Lyman, Smith, Grant, Taylor, Merrill, Lund and Cannon. President Lorenzo Snow said that in our former meetings as Apostles that we had tried to become perfectly united with one another and also to have perfect union with the Presidency of the Church . . . In our meeting day before yesterday we had devoted the time to discussion of political matters . . . On account of political matters the brethren had felt that they would like to meet with the Presidency of the Church. Pres[iden]t Cannon said that Pres[iden]t Woodruff was not feeling well and that he had expressed regrets that he could not meet with us today. John Henry Smith Expressed regrets at being absent yesterday and part of the day before. He expressed the very best of feelings for all of his brethren. Hoped that his political labors had been in the interests of the people and if they had not been then he had no been able to labor as he desired to do. After John T. Caine, John R. Winder, Franklin S. Richards and other leading men had come out and pronounced themselves as Democrats he felt that it was absolutely necessary for him and other leading men who were Republicans to come out and work for their cause or the people would all go with one bound to the Democratic Party. He went to the Theatre the night that the Republican Party was organized without knowing what I would do. Pres[iden]t Woodruff had given me no counsel other than I should act as the Spirit directed. I felt that the proper thing for me to do was to address the meeting and therefore I did it. All I want is to labor for the best good of the saints and I feel that my labors have been in the interests of the people. The main thing that he had tried to get out of the minds of the people was that it would be a crime to be a Republican. Lorenzo Snow said the question was shall we approve of the labors of brother Smith and is it wise for others of the brethren to take a prominent part in political matters. He felt that no matter what we did that we should be careful not to say or do anything to arouse ill feelings with those who were not on the same side politically as we were. I fully fellowship brother John Henry in his course and feel that it was almost an absolute necessity for him to take the course he has. I would not like to see any of the other members of the Apostles enter the field at the present time . . . President Joseph F. Smith said that it had been intimated to the Presidency by some of our very best friends that it would be injurious to the people in case they were all to join either one of the great National parties. As the leanings of the people seemed to be to join the Democrats it had seemed absolutely necessary to have some one high in authority who was a Republican to come out and labor for that party. It seems that the impression has got out among the people that it is almost a crime for them to become members of the Republican party and about the only way such an idea could be gotten out of their minds was that at least one of the leading men in the Church in whom the saints had confidence and who was really and truly a Republican should come out in the interests of his party and labor for it. Pres[iden]t Harrison had been in favor of the law that was to take away from all Mormons all the rights of citizens for a period of thirty years and the only reason this law and the only reason this law and others against us had not been passed was that the impression had been given to the Republican Party leaders that there was at least a fighting chance for them in Utah if they would stop making laws against the people. He had felt and so has Pres[iden]t Woodruff that it was absolutely necessary for John H[enr]y to take the course he has. Our influential friends among the gentiles residing outside of the territory had also felt that some work like that which brother John H[enr]y was doing was necessary. John H[enr]y seemed to be about the only man that could be put forward and we have really sacrificed him and he is now in the fight and he can not very well get out. Personally I wish we had more Republicans among the leading brethren so that our people would not think that it was wrong for them to join that party. He said that in case we wished to have Utah become a state and if we desired to see the brethren receive amnesty in his opinion there was no hopes for these two things only through the party now in power. He did not think the Democratic party ever would do anything for us. The Republican party put down slavery and then they had the courage to ask the people of the south to work with them and granted amnesty to all. The Republican Party claims the honor of putting down polygamy and now they have the courage and will grant amnesty to us if there is any hopes for them in our territory. Blaine and other very strong Republicans are working for us and they have been doing so for a long time, but if there is one single leading national Democrat working for us that he did not know it. Sincerely hoped that after the next election that the Democrats can not cry out with glee that the territory has all gone Democratic beyond redemption. President George Q. Cannon said that he felt that Brother John Henrey had made a great sacrifice in entering the political field as an active worker. While the Presidency did not call him to labor as he has at the same time they had felt that what he had done and was doing was for the best interests of the people and had had their full approval. Our friends felt that our political affairs should be so managed that we would have the friendship if possible of both of the political parties. He thought the feeling that all of us should have was the best interests of Utah without regard to party. Expressed his pleasure at being with the brethren today and his regrets that Pres[iden]t Woodruff was not feeling well enough to attend the meeting. Reference to the meetings that he attended forty years ago on the Sandwich Islands where the brethren would come together to pray and bless each other and said that these meetings were fresh in his memory on account of the outpourings of the Spirit and the time of rejoicing that they had. Said that there is nothing that is better than for us to get together and fast and pray and bless each other. Nothing would bring more of the Spirit of God to us than a course of this kind. He said that he felt that it was due to Isaac Trumbo to say that he had done more in time and in money for us than any many among the outsiders. He had been on hand at all times to labor in our interests and said that Trumbo felt that there was blessing attending his efforts in our behalf. Judge Estey of California was a friend of ours and he was interested in our cause and Estey was willing and did give credit for his interest to the efforts of Trumbo in enlisting his sympathies. In fact he felt that it was due to Trumbo to say that he had done as much if not more for us than any man in Zion. We as a people were under deep obligations to leading men among the Republicans. Said that good government would come to the nation no matter which party were in power provided good men were elected to office. It was the man and not the party that would bring us good government. It was perfectly clear to him that it was the right thing for our people to divide. The same spirit that in times past advised union now prompted us to division. Felt very strongly that we should be somewhere as near as possible equally divided. Felt that we should labor with all our ability for the best interests of the people and that when we had done all that was in our power that then he was perfectly willing to trust the final result in the hands of the Lord. The Presidency were perfectly united and he felt that if they could be united with the Apostles that there was nothing to fear. There were at the present time some fault finding with brother John H[enr]y Smith but this would all pass away in time. Hoped that every man who came to the next Legislature would be pledged in favor of the admission of Utah into the Union as a State and against the disenfranchisement of our people. Expressed perfect confidence in Apostles and they had his love and he desired their confidence and love. Francis M. Lyman said that he felt that we should have sufficient confidence in each other that we would know that not one of our quorum would take the course brother John H[enr]y had taken unless it was approved by the Presidency. He felt that we should be willing to relinquish our ideas in favor of those of the Presidency in cases where we did not see things alike. Heber J. Grant referred to the fact that at our meeting the day before yesterday it was almost if not quite the unanimous feeling of all who spoke that no effort should (not penned in) be made to change the political faith of the saints in the different Stakes and that all who had referred to the meeting held a week ago Monday, at which it was talked over that a committee should be appointed to try and see that the saints were as nearly as possibly equally divided, thought that such a committee was a great mistake. Stated that he felt that it was due to Prests. Cannon and Smith that they should know the feelings of the Apostles on the matter as in their remarks today they had carried the impression that they thought something of the kind was necessity. Presidents Cannon and Smith said that we had misunderstood the meaning intended to be conveyed at the meeting. They did not wish to have a committee appointed to try and change the political faith of any man, but they felt that some one should be in a position to let the saints know that it was in the best interests of the people that we do not all join one party and that as the great majority of the people had no real preferences in the matter there would be a greater chance of a division that would be nearly equal, but with the impression all over the land that it was almost a crime to (in page change left word out) a Republican there would not be a division, as the people would divide as they thought was their duty. Many men would become Democrats if they thought their duty was to join that party while in their hearts they felt that the principles of the Republican party were the best. It was not the intention to convert one man to be Republican who was a Democrat. After the remarks of Brothers Cannon and Smith the sacrament of the Lord’s supper was administered. While we were eating I referred to the great needs of the Utah Sugar Co. for money and said that I felt that something should be done to get the money they needed and that I felt the decision should be arrived at while we were together as to what should be done. Pres[iden]ts Cannon and Smith withdrew after we had the sacrament but they were in favor of our arriving at a decision as to what had better be done for the Sugar Co. While we were at the table a note was handed in form Bro[ther] Cutler that he must have money for the pay roll. I went out and gave him and order on Brother Wells for $7,000 He said that he had applied to Heber for that amount but Heber had said that they could not spare it. I told him that I would agree to arrange the matter on one day's notice in case the Bank needed the money and I felt sure that Heber would let him have the money needed. After Bro[ther]s Cannon and Smith had withdrawn we had a short meeting of Apostles . . . We had a very free talk of the needs of the Sugar Co. and also of the need that some eastern money come into the country to remain here. I felt that in case something was not done to bring money into the country that there would be some serious consequences result when the money that had been borrowed in the west and in the east had to be paid back. Nearly all of the brethren who spoke expressed regrets that the sale of Z.C.M.I. stock in London could not have been made. John W. Taylor moved that we as Apostles representing the Church borrow the $7,000 needed for the Sugar Co. today and that the amount be taken in the stock of the company. Carried. He also moved that the Church take $100,000 more stock in the company making the total amount invested $150,000 carried. Brother Taylor also moved that brother Grant be sent to Europe to borrow $500,000 for the Church. Carried. All of these motions were carried with the understanding that they were to be of no effect until approved by the Presidency. . . .

Franklin D. Richards said that he had never taken much interest in political matters. He felt that the all important matters before us at the present time was to do all in our power to prevent the Liberals from securing control of the next Legislature. In his opinion in case they were successful in capturing the Legislature they would enact laws to take all of our liberties away from us. There are men waiting and watching to be able to find out something to prove that the influence of the Priesthood has been used and if they can get anything to use they will use it against us. Some seem to feel that the all important matter is for us to secure statehood. He had never had any manifestations from the Lord that Statehood was coming to us at an early date. Sometimes the greatest trials as they seem at the time that we are passing through them are our greatest blessings. Some seemed to feel that as the Republicans were in power that there would be great benefits to us if we were as a Territory to become Republican. He did not think that there would be any great benefits from such a course on our part. He felt that the people should select the party they preferred to his mind our only safety was in following the advice and the counsel of the Presidency. He believed in following their lead with implicit confidence. (This meeting was attended at Gardo Pres[iden]t Lorenzo Snow, Apostles FD Richards, Moses Thatcher, Frances M. Lyman, John H[enr]y Smith, Heber J. Grant, John W. Taylor, MW Merrill, AH Lund and AH Cannon were present. The only members of our quorum absent being Brigham Young and George Teasdale. Counselor John W. Young was also absent.

[July 21, 1891] This evening I attended the theater to see the AM Palmer Co. in their new play of Alabama. Robert T. Burton and his wife, with four ladies and a gentleman composed the party. Dr. Miller of Omaha, attended the theatre with me and Bro[ther] Eisler-Burton. Dr. Miller was making a Democratic speech this evening or he would have made one of our party at the theater.

[August 4, 1891] Went fishing at Soda Springs with SHH Clark and Jay Gould.

[August 5, 1891] This evening I drove Pres[iden]t Cannon to his home. He was in favor of organizing an investment Co. (Grant had been proposing it for weeks) with at least half a million capital and if the money was offered to make the capital a million.

[August 6, 1891] Att[orne]ys Dickson and Richards presented a lot of questions that would no doubt have to be answered in the church property cases. I feel like letting the property go rather than try to defend it under the circumstances, but this is no doubt a wrong feeling. My Wife Lucy was blessed by the brethren today. I wrote to Gusta that we would have to give up the trip to London . . . This afternoon I went with Ex. Gov. West and F. S. Richards to visit a number of persons soliciting funds for the Democratic Party. I had a chat with John H[enr]y Smith and he said that he was willing that all of the stock (in insurance and ZCMI he held be sold and invested in Sugar Co.).

[August 20, 1891] Afternoon meeting Gardo meeting Presidency and Apostles. A Lot of questions to be answered before the Master in Chancery were presented. I could not make satisfactory answers . . .

[October 3, 1891] [Discussion of John W. Young, Cannon reading letter from him] Lorenzo Snow Testified of the great work that the brethren would do and that they would live to see the Saviour come to the earth. Said the Son of God would visit the brethren and converse with them before in he came to the earth in Glory.

[October 6, 1891] The speakers at conference this morning were Cha[rle]s W. Penrose, Moses Thatcher, FS Richards, John T. Caine; -- John Clark moved that a committee of five be appointed to report at conference this afternoon regarding the erroneous statements that have been published as to the attitude of the people in regard to the Manifesto issued by Pres. Woodruff . . . At the conference this afternoon, brief remarks were made by AH Lund, and AH Cannon, after which a report of the committee consisting of Clark, Rowe, Penrose, Richards and Caine was read. At the close of the report of the Committee, Mr. Cha[rle]s Ellis suggested the following addition to the committee's report. [Penned in For Ellis' addition see Deseret News.] BH Roberts and Moses Thatcher, Wilford Woodruff and others spoke of the motion before the house after which it was carried. Jacob Gates and Lorenzo Young spoke briefly Pres[ident] Geo[rge] Q. Cannon then addressed the meeting for about 30 minutes and the benediction was offered.

[October 7, 1891] [Lucy improving, at Soda Springs and home, Emily just returned from considerable stay in San Francisco, wife Gusta in East, disappointed at not getting to go to London with him, living the way they are almost killing her.] I would give all I had in the world if I could live with my wives as wives and acknowledge them before the world. I succeeded in getting a meeting with Gusta this evening at Mrs. Little's. I do not think I ever saw her feeling sadder in my life. She was nearly heart broken, but I think felt a little better after we separated. I had a frightful night after I left Gusta. I fear that unless I can do something more to make her satisfied with her lot in life that she will not be able to endure the trials she has to and the power I possessed to tell Gusta that I would give her my name in the future and not let her hear all the burdens of the relations we had been obliged to keep up. The Manifesto has been a fearful trial to the sisters in plural marriage. . . .

[October 9, 1891] I called on Pres[iden]t Cannon this morning at the Gardo and unburdened my to him, telling him of my wife’s suffering and my own heart aches. He told me that I should be blessed and comforted of the Lord and that the Lord would aid me in assisting Gusta to feel better. I could not keep from crying while I was chatting with Pres[iden]t Cannon I confessed to him that I felt that perhaps it was just that I should suffer as I was suffering as I had made him and other suffer by misjudging them and their actions. As we were parting he put his arm around me and kissed me and I felt that all ill feeling that I might have enjendered in his heart because of my criticisms of his actions after the death of Pres[iden]t Taylor was a thing of the past. This afternoon I took Gusta's girl Mary for a ride. Called for a minute to see Emily. I called and saw Gusta again and found her feeling very much better than she was last night and I do not know how to be thankful enough for the change in her feelings . . . (next week went to Oregon with Gusta) (saw residences of Willard Young and Zera Snow, asked driver about them, he said they were from Utah. He did not let on that he had known theses two gentlemen from his childhood) (then Mt. Hood and S. Francisco) [Penned note that this did not refer to Gusta but meant she was with him entire trip.]

[October 25, 1891] Met Col. Isaac Trumbo at the Palace Hotel this morning [penned in introduced Gusta] [penned in The visit to Del Monte will be one long remembered]. . . .

[November 9, 1891] . . . San Francisco Called on a number of insurance friends today; -- had a chat with S. W. Sears and with Mess. Seigried and H. B. Clawson regarding the position taken by Fred Castle of Castle Bros. in opposition to S. W. Sears for traffic manager of the Association which has recently been formed by the Merchants in San Francisco. It seems that Castle has opposed Sears for the position on the ground that he is a Mormon. Took the overland train in company with H. B. Clawson [penned & Gusta] for home.

[November 12, 1891] Spent the morning attending to business. This afternoon attended a meeting of our quorum; the principal subject was the testimony which we would soon have to give before the Master in Chancery in the Church Suits.

[November 23, 1891] Presidency favor my going to San Francisco to try and get some money for the Sugar Co. and other cos. [Delayed by head injury, operation on brother BF.]

[November 29, 1891] Called on Fred. and at Odell's Fred doing well Odell says Louie has improved from the time John and I called. [Named his eight-day-old son Daniel Wells Grant after his grandfather.]

[November 30, 1891] At nine attended Directors meeting of the Sugar Co. A committee was appointed to visit Lehi and accept the factory from the Dyers . . . Had a long chat with Edw[ar]d F. Dyer and we agreed to accept the works if he made a satisfactory run between now and next Thursday.

[December 1, 1891] It is 35 years ago today since father died. I was but nine days old when father died and it has been a great cross to me never to have known a father's love. My father left a reputation that I am proud of and which I hope to be able to follow.

[December 2, 1891] [Organization of Guarantee I. Investment Co., Grant $40,000 Rowe $10,000 Cutler $5,000 Groo $2,000 Joseph F. Smith $500 Barton $2,000 Geo[rge] M. Cannon $5,000 AH Cannon $5,000 Bateman $1,000 Eccles $10,000 Geo[rge] Q. Cannon $10,000 G. Hampton $500 IJ Nuttall $500 LG Hardy $10,000 total $111,500] when we met as a committee at Attorney Young's office this evening we discovered that under the Laws of the Territory, it was impossible to organize such a Company without having paid up capital of at least $100,000 in cash and said capital must be perpetually invested in first mortgages or kept in Bank on deposit; our Committee therefore decided not to prepare articles but simply to report the status of the Laws at our next meeting. I sincerely regret that some of our strongest financial men seem to have so little inclination to assist the Utah Sugar Co. and to other deserving enterprises.

[December 5, 1891] I have had had much sleep for several nights, worrying over the inability of the Sugar Co. to meet its obligations. Because of the legal objections to organizing an Investment Company, I felt impressed this morning to try and a get a firm formed to whom from two to three hundred thousand dollars of collateral security could be assigned in blank upon which to borrow money, and then have this fir help the Sugar Co. out. I had a chat with A. H. Cannon and Pres. Geo[rge] Q. Cannon regarding the proposition of forming a co-partnership to accomplish the objects that we desired to accomplish could we have formed a Guarantee Company. They were both quite favorable to the formation of such a firm. Had a long chat today with the Examination Committee of the State Bank . . .

[December 11, 1891] . . . All of those who attended the meeting at 11 AM expressed themselves as very much in favor of forming a firm for the purpose of borrowing money to aid the sugar factory and other industries needing assistance. The name of Cannon, Grant & Co. was decided upon for the firm, and the following agreement was signed; -- "We the undersigned have this day voluntarily associated ourselves together as partners under the name of Cannon, Grant & Co. for the purpose of borrowing and loaning money, the individual interest of each partner to be mutually agreed upon in proportion to the amount of stocks which he may assign in blank to the firm. HJ Grant is authorized to act as the agent for the firm, and to borrow money on stocks in the firm’s possession, and to sign the firm name to promissory notes for such amounts, and for such length of time as he may see proper, making an account to the firm for all moneys borrowed." signed December 11, 1891 Geo[rge] Q. Cannon, Heber J. Grant, WM H. Rowe, Elias Morris, Nephi W. Clayton, Geo[rge] M. Cannon, Elias A. Smith, Leonard G. Hardy, Jesse W. Fox, Jr., Jos[eph] F. Smith, Abraham H. Cannon, Henry A. Woolley. I could not help but contrast the difference between the feeling manifested in our meeting today when the firm of Cannon, Grant & Co. was formed and that which developed at the meeting held at the ZCMI some days ago when the organization of an Investment Co. was being considered. Something over $200,000 in securities were delivered to me as the agent for the firm of Cannon, Grant & Co. (off to San Francisco) with sick wife, met Mattie Hughes

[December 23, 1891] . . . [After other attempts] also tried to secure a loan through Col. Trumbo; -- tried the Pacific Bank and the Mutual Savings Bank, and the California Safe Deposit & Trust Co., in fact I have tried individuals and corporations and banks wherever I was able to get an introduction, but have not met with any success . . . Dr. Robinson decided that Lucy was in very critical condition and would have to undergo another operation similar to that of last July. What she must have suffered since Richards told her there was nothing the matter with her and told her to walk and ride no matter if it did hurt, is frightful to contemplate and makes me very indignant. Dr. Robinson advises that she does not even go to her meals or stand on her feet unless absolutely necessary.

[December 24, 1891] [On train] Wrote a letter to Col. Isaac Trumbo enclosing one from McCornick & Co. In which they recommend a loan of $30,000 for Grant Bro[ther]s Livery Co. with the endorsement of Directors. I asked the Col. to try and secure this amount from the Pacific Bank.

[December 25, 1891] [Met President Cannon, reported failure to secure money in San Francisco, pessimistic of better success if went back, willing to go East, but Lucy facing operation in SF, said would be guided by his advice] He said by all means for me to return to San Francisco, as he thought that my presence would have as much to do with Lucy's recovery as anything . . .

Had a nice sleigh ride with Gusta & Emily and their children this evening.

[January 1, 1892] . . . I felt truly thankful that there was perfect confidence existing between myself and Prest. Geo[rge] Q. Cannon. I referred mother to the hymn on page 66 in our book and felt that while I had once felt unkindly towards Prest. Cannon that he is now one of my dearest friends. I felt that Lucy, and Gusta and Emily had all been as good to me as I could possibly ask and so expressed myself in the letter to my mother. I assured her that no mother could have been better to a son than she had been to me.

[January 8, 1892] [San Francisco] Met James D. Phelan and his father, and had a talk with them in reference to loaning some money in Salt Lake City. James D. Stated that in the near future, he hoped to visit our City, when he would look over the field, and he thought it quite probable that he would make some loans there. Met Col. Isaac Trumbo and he promised to interest himself in aiding me to secure some money. [Had lunch with him next day at Union League Club.]

[January 11, 1892] [San Francisco] sent the following telegram: Heber M. Wells, at Union Club Party, Hotel Templeton SLC Union forever; success to Union Club; -- present sincere regrets to all members each committee that Lucy and I are not with you. Dance with Bird, Dell, Kit and Gusta for me. Heber J. Grant.

For a number of years, some of my friends have endeavored to get me to join a social club that should be strictly "Mormon," one of the rules of the Alta Club being "No Mormons need apply". I have been opposed to the organization of a partisan club, but I am very much pleased indeed at the organization of the Union Club, which will include in its membership Mormon, Jew and Gentile. Took lunch today at the Bohemian Club with Col. Isaac Trumbo. Called this afternoon in company with Col. Trumbo and had a pleasant chat with Dr. MacDonald, President of the Pacific Bank. He was a practicing physician at Nauvoo, Ill., at the time the Mormon people were driven out of that City by a mob, and he bore a very strong testimony as to the honesty of the people with whom he became acquainted there, and said he had respect at the present time for the Mormon people and always had had. Made a written application today through Col. Trumbo for a loan of $30,000 from the Pacific Bank, same to be secured by $25,000 stock of Zion's Savings Bank the present market value being $50,000.

[January 12, 1892] In chatting with Col. Trumbo this afternoon, I told him of the refusal of the Executive Committee to carry out my wishes in depositing $25,000 with Wells, Fargo, and that I felt inclined to resign the Presidency of the Bank. He gave it to me as his advice as a friend of long standing that I had better not resign from the Bank. . . .

[January 14, 1892] Lucy [facing an operation in San Francisco] is very much delighted to think that I am going to resign from the State Bank and some of the other Co.'s which I am connected with.

[January 15, 1892] Visited the California Biscuit Co.'s factory in company with Col. Trumbo; -- this is an immense institution, and I enjoyed going through the factory very much. Took lunch at the Bohemian club with the Col.

[January 19, 1892] Applied to the Pacific Bank for a loan of $5500 on the note of Geo[rge] Q. Cannon endorsed by Cannon, Grant & Co. and secured by Zion's Savings Bank stock; -- application declined.

[January 21, 1892] Lucy is very bad this evening, and the first time in my life I have asked myself the question of whether she is going to live or die, and I hardly dare answer my own question. Lucy is very bad indeed and I feel greatly depressed in spirit and wish I were in a position where we could call in some of the Elders. I feel the need of their faith. [Next day telegraphs HM Wells] to tell my folks, President Cannon and friends to pray for her . . . Richard W. Young offering to come to San Francisco if I wished him to do so; Received a telegram from Heber M. Wells stating that Pres. Cannon and friends were full of faith for Lucy's recovery (she was better)

[January 25, 1892] [Talking to Pres. Staples of the Fireman's Fund, he told me that at the . . . ] Among other things he spoke of TBH Stenhouse, and his acquaintance with him, and of the book which he had written against the Mormons, and he remarked that Stenhouse admitted to him that many of the statements in the book were not true, but that he had to write in the vein he did in order to sell the book. (HJG then told of son coming and borrowing 75¢ and told him of the utter wreck Stenhouse had made of his family).

[January 27, 1892] On the 30th I wrote a letter of 11 pages to Pres[iden]t Geo[rge] Q. Cannon in answer to one of the most sympathetic letters I have ever had in my life. Lucy's sickness, taken in connection with (bank matters) Pres[iden]t Cannon fully appreciates my feelings. I could not refrain from crying while reading his letter and I stopped several times while answering to cry.

[February 13, 1892] [San Francisco] I wrote to John Henry Smith (who is in Washington) expressing my hope that he might be successful in his efforts for statehood for Utah, and hoping that he might at least be successful in killing the "Home rule bill".

On the same day, I wrote to Byron Groo, Editor of the "Herald" expressing my disgust at the position taken by the Utah Legislature, and telling him that I was gradually being converted to Republicanism.

[March 31, 1892] I was pleased indeed to learn that the bond of Pres[iden]t Geo[rge] Q. Cannon had been settled and that he would be freed from paying same. The officials in Washington had arranged the matter without cost to Pres[iden]t Cannon [still hoping Lucy will not need another operation].

[April 1, 1892] Pres[iden]t Lorenzo Snow . . . Had not thought that the Manifesto was to include unlawful cohabitation but he saw when he was in court testifying before the Master in Chancery that he must give his testimony that unlawful cohabitation was included and Pres[iden]t Woodruff had seen the same thing When Pres[iden]t Woodruff issued the Manifesto he had felt that he would see the world in hell before he would accept any such a position as that men in plural marriage were not at perfect liberty to live with their wives. The night after he had given his testimony he had hardly slept all night . . . It is your business and your right to see the Son of God.

Heber J. Grant quoted from Pres[iden]t Woodruff that he said at the time the Manifesto was issued, in answer to the question would not our enemies require that unlawful cohabitation be included, that he would see them damned first . . . Would be delighted if we could feel to proclaim to the world that Church sustained men in living with their wives.

Moses Thatcher did not think that our nation demanded of us that we should take the position that was taken in the court before the Master in Chancery. He felt that it was the duty of this quorum to put themselves in harmony with the testimony which had been given before the Master in Chancery. (quoted Woodruff and John Taylor in past on harmony in Cache Valley) Today there was a wonderful division and it had all been brought about by our political divisions.

Pres[iden]t Jos[eph] F. Smith came in while Bro[ther] Moses was speaking and wanted to know if the brethren would join in a telegram to the President of the United States asking once more for amnesty, Bro[ther]s Thatcher and Taylor did not feel like sending such a telegram. The balance of us voted in favor of doing so. Bro[ther] Thatcher seemed to think it was degrading to keep on asking for amnesty.

[April 2, 1892] This morning attended a meeting of the Apostles, Lorenzo Snow, Franklin D. Richards, Moses Thatcher, Francis M. Lyman, John H[enr]y Smith, HJ Grant, John W. Taylor, Anthon H. Lund and Abraham H. Cannon were present. Pres[iden]t Lorenzo Snow said that he felt that our having to give up living with our wives was a very great sacrifice, but the brethren would not lose their reward. He felt that the testimony given by Pres[iden]ts Woodruff, Cannon and Smith before the Master in Chancery was all right. Franklin D. Richards told us that he had learned from a conversation with Pres[iden]t cannon that there was a very good feeling existing in Washington towards our people and that Pres[iden]t Cannon thought the chances for the return of the Church property & a state government were quite favorable. He thought members of our quorum should be especially careful regarding the breaking of the law on cohabitation until such a time as there was a revulsion of feeling in our favor. The Lord does things up in a splendid way.

AH Cannon said that he had three wives and that he tried to keep the Law of God but would change if the brethren of the quorum wished him to do so. He could endorse the position taken in our meeting yesterday by Bro[ther] Grant, viz. announcing to the world that those who had wives proposed to live with them and be true to them and their children.

John W. Taylor said he had 2 wives and he proposed to live with them and he did not believe that men were required to separate from their wives. Moses Thatcher and HJ Grant expressed the opinion that if amnesty were granted that we should then obey the law on unlawful cohabitation. Francis M. Lyman had always lived with his wives and always expected to go on doing so. He did not want to defy the law. He had no uneasy feelings regarding the political situation. John Henry Smith felt good in the faith, cohabitation was all right. The Lord had revealed to him that plural marriage was true and he did not want to throw off any of his responsibilities. He felt the brethren should take their wives out of Utah so that they would not be liable to the law in case they lived with them.

Anthon H. Lund felt that public opinion was changing in our favor. Edmunds, Blaine & other leading men thought men should not be disturbed in existing family relations. Felt we should be careful just now. Pres[iden]t Lorenzo Snow had nothing to day about the brethren living with their wives.

[May 1, 1892] This morning at 10 AM I attended Fast Meeting in the Thirteenth Ward (Sunday) . . . Jos[eph] E. Taylor read the circular issued by the First Presidency which has been published in the Deseret Evening News for several evenings as follows: To the Latter-day Saints in Zion and throughout the world: Beloved brethren and Sisters; -- A little over two years ago we were impressed to call upon the Latter-day Saints to set apart a day for fasting and solemn prayer unto the Lord. Our position at that time was such that it seemed as though no earthly power could deliver us from the evil which environed us and which threatened our overthrow. Turn which way we would every avenue seemed closed against us. Human help was beyond our reach. Our eyes and hearts under those circumstances turned to the Lord as the only power to which we could appeal for succor. Do we say too much when we testify that the Lord did on that occasion condescend to hear and answer the supplication of His people. Their humiliation before Him was not without its fruits. If the object which were suggested in our circular letter at that time to be prayed for be examined, the results will show how wonderfully the Lord has granted the prayers of His People? In view of this and the great mercy shown unto us by our Father in heaven in permitting us at our recent General Conference, to lay the top stone of the Salt Lake Temple with shouts of Hosanna to God and the Lamb, it has suggested itself to us that it would be most appropriate for the Latterday Saints to gather in their various places of worship, on Sunday the first day of May 1892 and in fasting and prayer, offer up to the Most High their heartfelt and solemn thanksgiving for His goodness and mercy, which he has shown unto them and the deliverance he has wrought out in their behalf . . . In Our prayers we should still supplicate the Almighty Father to continue to bless and deliver His Zion and to prepare the way for the ushering in of the full reign of righteousness and truth, when he whose right it is to reign shall hold undisputed sway over all the earth. . . .

[May 6, 1892] Had a chat with Moses Thatcher regarding Bullion Beck & Champion mine. Moses agreed to give our bank all of the business of the Bullion B&C Mining Co. I would be willing to have the firm of Cannon Grant & Co. Changed to Cannon Thatcher & Co. And I can't help regretting that Moses is not with us in our firm. [Starts for New York with Gusta tomorrow.]

[July 12, 1892] At [apostles meeting Snow, Thatcher, Lyman, Smith, Grant, Taylor, Merrill, Lund and Cannon] Pres[iden]t Lorenzo Snow spoke to us and referred to the dangers of divisions among us on account of political differences. Referred to the recent speech of Bro[ther] Thatcher at Ogden and the reply in the Ogden Standard. The Article by Pres[iden]ts Jos[eph] F. Smith & John H[enr]y Smith and bro[ther] Thatcher's reply to their article. Hoped these differences would not lead to divisions among the brethren. Brothers Smith and Thatcher each spoke expressing the very best of feelings for each other, not withstanding their differences in opinion in political matters.

[July 13, 1892] [Meeting with same apostles, Woodruff came in later before sacrament.] Before partaking of the sacrament Bro[ther] Thatcher offered an earnest prayers for the restoration to health of my wife Lucy.

[July 28, 1892] [Council meeting] I made a long talk on the affairs of the Sugar Co. saying I felt that it was too much of a load on Cannon Grant & co. to carry as they had as individuals taken about $90,000 of the stock and were now standing under a load of about $200,000 and that in case of a failure it would crush them. They had not taken this load upon themselves from a business standpoint bu simply from a spirit of loyalty . . . Pres[iden]t Woodruff said that in case of a failure he felt the Church should shoulder the load. Bro[ther] Thatcher said as the sugar business was a church move he did not see how the church could do other wise than shoulder the load in case of a failure.

[August 4, 1892] At 2PM we assembled again Pres[iden]ts Woodruff and Lorenzo Snow each made some remarks regarding the necessity of perfect union among the brethren of the Presidency and Apostles. (have been making temple plans) Bro[ther] Lyman asked bro[ther] Thatcher his reasons for making the attack he did on the Utah sugar Co. in his political speech in Ogden. Bro[ther] Moses then made a long explanation of why he had made the talk he did in his Ogden speech. Pres[iden]t Jos[eph] F. Smith and Geo[rge] Q. Cannon each spoke to some length & explained fully the feelings & policy of the Presidency of the Church on political matters, Pres[iden]t Smith felt the policy of the Presidency had not been fully sustained by the apostles, & that Moses especially had failed to sustain the policy. Pres[iden]t Cannon did not feel that the policy of the Presidency had been sustained by the Apostles. A motion was put and carried unanimously that we would sustain the policy of the presidency on political matters. The policy of the presidency as I understand it is that it is wise for our people not to consider it their bounden duty to all become members of one political faith and that seeing the idea has gone on that we should all become Democratic that it is wisdom for the leading Democrats not to be too active in trying to make converts to their political faith, they felt that where a man was converted to Democratic principles that he should be true to his convictions. I made a talk on the sugar business and a motion was carried that the Church should shoulder the load in case the business is a failure.

[October 4, 1892] President Wilford Woodruff and Joseph F. Smith met with our quorum today at 1 PM Pres[iden]t Geo[rge] Q. Cannon is absent from the city, being east working in the interests of the saints. (Woodruff expressed sometimes feelings of inadequacy, wondered sometimes why his life had been spared so long.) There should be nothing to divide us politically or otherwise. The Lord is going to take care of this Kingdom and it is going to grow and prevail. There is going to be a place of safety when the judgments of the Lord go forth . . . Pres[iden]t Joseph F. Smith said that he desired earnestly to be united with his brethren . . . Would like to know what is for our best good religiously, financially and politically, Desire if my brethren see me acting in any way contrary to their wishes, then I would like to have them let me know. (many spoke of unity) Pres[iden]t Woodruff said he would like to make a few remarks, Said it was the Kingdom of God or nothing with him. Did not care for any political party . . . I noticed that tears came in Pres[iden]t Woodruff's eyes a time or two while the brethren were expressing their love for the Kingdom of God and their desire to know the wishes of the Presidency and determination to carry the same out even if it were in opposition to their own feelings . . . Nearly the entire morning was spent in an informal visit as Pres[iden]t Snow and Apostle Thatcher were not with us they being engaged with the Presidency.

[October 5, 1892] [Returning from territorial fair] Met Pat Lannan as I was going home this evening from the office. Had a long chat with him regarding the salvage that could be made for the Tribune and Herald, provided the Business Managers of each paper would work in harmony.

[October 9, 1892] After the afternoon meeting met with Presidency and Apostles at President's office. Pres[iden]t Cannon reported his labors during his recent trip east. I feel that he was greatly blessed of the Lord in his efforts to protect the liberties of the people.

[October 14, 1892] At 2PM in company with the Governor Thomas, Judge Zane, H. B. Clawson, Jos[eph] F. Smith, John Henry Smith and others, I visited Garfield Beach. We went in a special car and the trip was gotten up in honor of Governor Markham and his Staff who were here from San Francisco. The Governor and his party expressed themselves as very much pleased with Garfield Beach.

[October 17, 1892] At 3PM attended a meeting of the Presidency and those of the Apostles who are in the City together with the Presidency of Salt Lake Stakes and Bishop John R. Winder. Pres[ident] Geo[rge] Q. Cannon presented some letters from parties asking for employment, and stated that the question of furnishing employment for those of our people who were not able to secure it was becoming a very important one, and after a long discussion the matter was referred to the Presiding Bishopric to endeavor to secure employment for those who were willing to work, or try and get them located in some country settlement where there was a favorable opening for them.

[November 7, 1892] This evening attended the theatre and listened to a joint debate between Rawlins and Cannon our would be delegates to Congress . . .

[November 18, 1892] I feel thankful for the openings Cannon Grant & Co. have had to obtain money as I am sure we have greatly assisted the church as well as a number of business institutions [got 50,000 from New York for church just then through HM Wells].

[December 1, 1892] This morning HB Clawson called this morning and informed me that the US Marshall was going to try and make a case against me so he had heard. I wrote Gusta a note and she expressed a willingness to move at any time. Saw Emily and she is willing to move. There is really no need for either of them to move as I am sure a case cannot be made against me, but I don't want them brought up in court.

[December 2, 1892] HB Clawson called this evening & he seemed to think there was no need for me moving Gusta just at present.

[December 9, 1892] [At party for Heber's fourth birthday; nine of his children are together for first time.] In the kind providences of the Lord I hope someday there will be family reunions where the brethren are in plural marriage, that cannot now be because of the laws preventing men from visiting their plural wives. . . .

[December 18, 1892] [Heber M. Wells worried about bank's future even before Lucy's death. Grant cannot go east to hustle money at this time.]

[April 19, 1893] Today has been a day long to be remembered as one of the brightest in my life and I feel thankful to the Lord that I have been permitted to be pres

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